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‘Isa Al Massih or the Muslim Jesus?

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‘Isa Al Massih or the Muslim Jesus??


Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi, employee of the Palestinian Authority, broadcast live in April 2002 on Palestinian Authority television:

“The Jews await the false Jewish messiah, while we await, with Allah’s help… Jesus, peace be upon him. Jesus’s pure hands will murder the false Jewish messiah. Where? In the city of Lod, in Palestine.”

So, brothers, what will happen soon in our Palestine? War against Christians and Jews? War against Allah/God or peace? Let’s consider it today but before let’s read conversation of my brothers Sazie Johnson, Ahmed El Abd and Walid Saifaddin Ashoor (please read their conversations below in a section called Questions and Answers:

Sazie Johnson said:

Hello Ahmed El Abd,
You wrote: “…let us state a fact not all the Arabs master the Arabic (language). Despite speaking or writing Arabic (language) still, we as Muslims, have to seek the assistance of the Shaikhs to clear the Quranic texts or we go to Tfseer books in order to reach the right meanings and get the best explanations for the verses without using our poor language skills to interpret the meaning…”
That is an intellectual statement — an honest one too. Interestingly, not too often do Christians come across a Muslim who admits that there are problems with reading and understanding the Quran.
The Quran was original revealed in the Quraysh language, which no longer exists. In fact there are scholarly debates as to whether there was such a language. However, the Quran was translated from this questionable language to a classical Arabic language. Today only about 12 or 15% of all Arabs can actually read and understand classical Arabic language. It is like us, English speaking people, trying to read and understand classical English such as the language in which William Shakespeare wrote his plays. So too do modern day Arab speaking people have problems reading and understanding the Quran which was translated from the Quraysh language to the now classical Arabic language.
Bukhari: V4B56N709 “Uthman called Zaid, Abdallah, Said, and Abd-Rahman. They wrote the manuscripts of the Quran in the form of a book in several copies. Uthman said to the three Quraishi persons, ‘If you differ with Zaid bin Thabit on any point of the Quran, then write it in the language of the Quraysh, as the Quran was revealed in their language.’ So they acted accordingly.”
You and I must understand this: We outside of Islam expect Muslims to honor and to uphold the three deceptive and misleading demands set forth by Islam: (1) Muslims are to lie in battle: promoting/defending Islam, (2) Muslims are to in peace treaty, and (3) Muslims are to relationship between husbands and wives.
For example: Muslims present the men who memorized the Quran from Muhammad as men who are incapable of forgetfulness — unable to forget. These men were supposed to have computer chips implanted in their brains so that they can never forget verses of the Quran.
Bukhari:V6B61N559 “The Prophet said, ‘Why does anyone of the people say, “I have forgotten such-and-such Verses (of the Qur’an)?’”
These are the kind of things we come across everyday from Muslims. They tell us one story about an event; Islamic history tells us another story about the same event.
I will give you a most recent example: Quran 8:1 reads, “They ask thee (O Muhammad) of the spoils of war. Say: The spoils of war belong to Allah and the messenger…” In this sense Allah and Muhammad are co-owners or joint-owners of the spoils of war. This is Shirk (attributing partnership to Allah). Allah and Muhammad are partners when it comes to the ownership of the spoils of war.
Now let us read Walid Ashoor’s response to Quran 8:1: He writes: “Once you wrote that God in the Quran said: God and Mohammad…..etc…then you claimed and poorly understood that Mohammad is comparable to God. Well in this pretext i could understand if you said: My dog and i went for a walk..in this case are you comparable to a dog????????? The answer is no.”
Someone writing about my “Dog and I going for a walk” is not the same as my “Dog and I owning a piece of property;” or as in the direct sense of Quran 8:1 “This piece of property belongs to Sazie and his dog.” One statement says, “My dog and I were definitely together at one time.” The other statement says, “My dog and I may not have been together at one time, but my dog and I are co-own something.” One statement indicates a relationship between my do and me; the other statement indicates a connection between my dog and me.
And I do not blame Walid Ashoor. If he must remain true to Islam, he is compared by the Islamic oath for deception to lie to me. Muslims are to lie in battle: promoting/defending Islam.
However, all is not lost. There is hope for Muslims. That is why we are shocked and truly amazed when a Muslim like you say: “…let us state a fact. Not all the Arabs master the Arabic (language). Despite speaking or writing Arabic (language), still, we as Muslims, have to seek the assistance of the Shaikhs to clear the Quranic texts or we go to Tfseer books in order to reach the right meanings and get the best explanations for the verses without using our poor language skills to interpret the meaning…”
Not too many Muslims will say such intellectual and honest statement. The Quran was revealed in the Quraysh language and later translated into the now classical Arabic language which only few Arabs can read and understand. This is a true statement which more Muslims are trained to deny.
You also wrote: “We are right of no doubt….. our Quran is from God…… Our prophet Mohamed and all other prophets including our Jesus and not their fake one are human messengers from God.”
I like the part where you said, “Our Jesus.” You are right. There are truly two different Jesus. The Jesus of the Bible is not the same as the Jesus of the Quran. The reasons are given below:
The Quranic Jesus would support Quran 5:38 and Quran 5: 45 which reads, “As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.” “We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal…And if any fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.”
The Biblical Jesus objects Quran 5:38 and Quran 5: 45. In the Book of Matthew the Biblical Jesus said, “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek (face), turn to him the other also. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love only those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the evil people loving those who love them?” (Matthew 5:38-45)
Your duty as a Muslim is to tell us that after 600 years the Biblical Jesus has changed His mind. He now support Quran 5: 45 which reads, “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal…And if any fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.” That is not true. You are right to say, “Our Jesus,” because we truly have two different Jesus.
I like you Mr. Ahmed El Abd. I find no hatred in you, but withdrawal —withdraw from discussions based on common sense and logic. And that is fine. You and I can live together in peace. Thank you for your honesty.

Sazie

So, brothers, who is Jesus Christ in Islam and in the Holy Scripture called the Bible? Is it the same personality? And who should we all believe in? Why do we Christians claim that ‘Isa (Jesus) of the Qur’an is a product of fable, imagination and ignorance?! We know that when Muslims venerate this ‘Isa, they have someone different in mind from the Yeshua or Jesus of the Bible and of history!!!! Because Jesus Christ described in the Holy Scripture which existed BEFORE Islam is different from violent ‘islamic jesus’. God said in this scripture that He is LOVE. He cannt be killer and love at the same time! Teaching of God Jesus is full of compassion, mercy, forgiveness of sins of every sinner and love until His death on the cross. Now WHY then Islamic picture of Jesus is so different from what we KNOW about God reading His words said through prophets? Do you remember, brothers, the crowd arrests Jesus, though one of Jesus’ disciples tries to stop them by using a sword to cut off the ear of one of the men in the crowd. The Scripture specifies that it had been Simon Peter who had cut off the ear of Malchus, a servant of Caiaphas, the high priest. And we see that Jesus healed the wound. John, Matthew, and Luke state that Jesus criticized the violent act, insisting that they do not resist Jesus’ arrest. In Matthew, Jesus says all who live by the sword shall die by the sword. Why Jesus BEFORE existence of the word Islam clearly said that He is against any violence but why then Islamic Jesus is killer????!!!!! The answer is evident: one of Scriptures is FALSE. One of religions is FALSE. One of the ways is FALSE and leading everyone to DESTRUTION and HELL FIRE. So, as you all Muslims claim to be reasonable then let’s analyze today Islamic Scripture and words of God to FIND the TRUE God! Because this GOD BEFORE the foundation of ISLAM claimed to be GOD of LOVE! And there is no such God of LOVE in ‘peaceful’ religion called Islam! Let’s analyse Islamic Scripture today:

Islam claims that Jesus will come back to fight for Islam.

Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace be upon him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.

Abu Dawud 37:4310

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it.” Abu Huraira added “If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): — ‘And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them.” (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol 7)

Sahih Bukhari 4:55:65

Islam claims when judgment day arrives Jesus will judge the people by the words of the Qur’an and not of the Bible.

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said “How will you be when the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you and he will judge people by the Law of the Quran and not by the law of Gospel (Fateh-ul Bari page 304 and 305 Vol 7)

Sahih Bukhari 4:55:658

Fight those who believe not in Allah or the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Qur’an 9:29

So, what about the return of the Muslim Jesus?

According to Hadith, Jesus’ return will be as taking place just outside Damascus. “At this very time Allah would send Christ, son of Mary, and he will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damascus wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he would lower his head, there would fall beads of perspiration from his head, and when he would raise it up, beads like pearls would scatter from it.”

He will be the Subordinate of The Mahdi:

At this time, Jesus descends to meet the army of the Mahdi which will be preparing for battle. It will be just before the time of prayer. Muslims will still be preparing themselves for the battle drawing up the ranks. Certainly, the time of prayer shall come and then Jesus, son of Mary would descend. The Mahdi will ask Jesus to lead the prayers. Jesus will then refuse this request and will defer instead to the Mahdi to lead the prayer. Jesus will decline the offer and invitation of Imam Mahdi to come and lead the Muslims in prayer, and say his prayer behind Imam Mahdi. After Jesus returns, in keeping with his identity as a faithful Muslim, he will perform the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca called hajj:

Brothers, NOTE that Jesus is said to:

  1. Break crosses.
  2. Kill all swine.
  3. Abolish the jizyah tax (a Muslim tax on non-Muslims)
  4. Kill the Muslim antichrist and his followers made up largely of Jews and women.

Islamic Jesus is the destroyer of Christianity establishing Islam and making war until he destroys all religions. He shall kill the Evil One (Dajjal) (anti-Christ figure).

In one tradition of Muhammad we read that no further prophets will come to earth until ‘Isa returns as ‘a man of medium height, or reddish complexion, wearing two light garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head although it will not be wet. He will fight for the cause of Islam. (Sunan Abu Dawud, 37:4310) The Sahih Muslim has a variant of this tradition: ‘The son of Mary … will soon descend among you as a just judge. He will … abolish the poll-tax, and the wealth will pour forth to such an extent that no one will accept charitable gifts.’ (Sahih Muslim 287)

What do these sayings mean? The cross is a symbol of Christianity. Breaking crosses means abolishing Christianity. Under Islamic law the poll-tax buys the protection of the lives and property of conquered ‘people of the Book’. (At-Taubah 9:29) The abolition of the poll-tax means jihad is restarted against Christians (and Jews) living under Islam, who should convert to Islam, or else be killed or enslaved. The abundance of wealth refers to booty flowing to the Muslims from this conquest. This is what the Muslim ‘Isa will do when he returns in the last days.

Islamic Jesus is the Slayer of Jews!!!

Beyond the “accomplishment” of abolishing Christianity on a worldwide scale, another of Jesus’ primary jobs is to kill a figure know as the Dajjal, or the Muslim version of the Antichrist. But not only will Jesus kill the Dajjal, but also all of the Dajjal’s followers, who consequently, will mostly be Jews. Brothers, it is important to remember that when this final war (or more accurately a final slaughter) occurs, according to Islamic tradition, it is the Muslim Jesus who is the primary instigator of such.

But who is Mahdi? In Arabic, al-Mahdi means, “The Guided One” He is also sometimes referred to by Shi’a Muslims as Sahib Al-Zaman or Al-Mahdi al-Muntadhar which translated mean “The Lord of the Age” and “The Guided/Awaited One.” The tradition which states that the Mahdi will descend from the family of Muhammad and will bear Muhammad’s name (Muhammad bin Abdullah). He will be an unparalleled spiritual, political and military world leader. He will emerge after a period of great turmoil and suffering upon the earth. He will lead a world revolution and establish a new world order. He will invade many countries. He will make a seven year peace treaty with a Jew of priestly lineage. He will lead military action against all those who oppose him. He will conquer Israel for Islam and lead the “faithful Muslims” in a final slaughter/battle against Jews. He will establish the new Islamic world headquarters from Jerusalem. He will cause Islam to be the only religion practiced on the earth. He will be loved by all the people of the earth…..But, brothers, NOTE: the Holy Bible described the same way one person called the anti-christ! God Jesus told us in His prophecies about the anti-christ and all who read the words of God in the Bible could CLEARLY see that the Mahdi is the ANTI-CHRIST!!!! So, what do Muslims worship? Do they believe in peaceful allah or in the rein of the ANTI-CHRIST who is the follower of this allah? Can God of WAR be God of PEACE? Can God of SLAUGHTER be God of LOVE? The answer is NO! Islamic Jesus is a violent figure! Jesus Christ described in the Bible is HOLY God, MERCIFUL, ALPOWERFUL, LOVING and He is God of PEACE!!!! Do not forget that the Mahdi is said to lead a world revolution that will establish a new Islamic world order throughout the entire earth:

“The Mahdi will establish right and justice in the world and eliminate evil and corruption. He will fight against the enemies of the Muslims who would be victorious. “

“He will reappear on the appointed day, and then he will fight against the forces of evil, lead a world revolution and set up a new world order based on justice, righteousnessand virtue…ultimately the righteous will take the world administration in their hands and Islam will be victorious over all the religions.”

The Mahdi’s means and method of accomplishing this world revolution will include multiple military campaigns or holy wars (jihad). Most traditions picture the non-Muslim world coming to Islam as a result of being conquered by the Mahdi. Islamic tradition pictures the Mahdi as joining with the army of Muslim warriors carrying black flags. The Mahdi will then lead this army to Israel and re-conquer it for Islam. The Jews will be slaughtered until very few remain and Jerusalem will become the location of the Mahdi’s rule over the Earth. There is a very famous tradition that is often quoted throughout the Islamic world that speaks of the Mahdi’s military campaign against Israel:

“The Prophet said…The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him…

Summary: As we have clearly seen, the Muslim Jesus, in both his nature and actions is far different than the biblical Jesus. Islamic Jesus is NOT God of LOVE. He instead comes to convert the world to Islam or kill those who refuse to do so. Even al-Mahdi will be an unparalleled spiritual, political and military world leader to KILL unbelievers and establish a NEW World order called Islam. Where is PEACE in the religion called Islam? 60% of Quran is full of suras calling righteous Muslims to Jihad and Ahadith is informing Muslims about the FUTURE wars and military campaigns against Jews who are BROTHERS of Arabs. Instead of coming to save and deliver faithful Christians and Jews, Islamic Jesus comes instead to kill and slaughter them. God of SLAUGHTER is NOT God Jesus! Do we need God of SLAUGHTER?! No! We all NEED and EXPECT the coming of just and merciful King Jesus who loves all of us, hates our sins and gives us His Kingdom of Heaven as to adopted sons of God. If religion becomes a MADNESS we need to make a choice in our heart to STOP any madness! To stop it in our hearts, minds and LIVES! WAR or PEACE? God of LOVE or God of Slaughter? I know for sure: there is NO madness in the God who was described by Himself on the pages of the Holy Bible! I make a decision to FOLLOW Him, LOVE Him, and try to KNOW Him more and more because God COULD be and SHOULD be KNOWN by us! His Son Jesus said:

 

Jesus answered,

“I am the way and the truth and the life.

No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:6

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John 14 (New King James Version)

John 14

The Way, the Truth, and the Life

1 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.”
5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

The Father Revealed

7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

The Answered Prayer

12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

Jesus Promises Another Helper

15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

Indwelling of the Father and the Son

19 “A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”
22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?”
23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me.

The Gift of His Peace

25 “These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. 27 Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28 You have heard Me say to you, ‘I am going away and coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said,‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I.
29 “And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe. 30 I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming, and he has nothing in Me. 31 But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.

Arabs and Muslims,

be SAVED by God RIGHT NOW!

Brothers, Islam and the Bible call Jesus as Kalimat-Ullah- WORD of Allah!

Will you reject God by rejecting His SON?

Look if you will reject Son, it means you dont believe in His Father Allah. It means you are AGAINST Allah.

Islam came later after prophecies of Allah already existed that His Son Jesus will save the world from sins. So, what is Islam? ONE of religions. Look brother, there are millions religions and all they worship millions of gods which are called by God of Ibrahim as IDOLS.

Way for people worshiping idols is hell. Islam is among them. Why? Because Islam makes God of our father Ibrahim a LIAR by claiming that there is NO Son of God. Islam is closing eyes of Muslims to the words of Allah. Which man on the earth is able to BEAR INIQUITIES of the world? Sins of people? How SERVANT canJUSTIFY many people? It is impossible for a man. But only for God! We worship perfect God. He DIED instead on us. His name is the most perfect – Jesus….Isa Ibn Allah…Isa Allah…Issa Al Massih. And He is God of our father Ibrahim. Turn from sins to HIM and LIVE eternally as son of God!

Be saved right NOW

How to LIVE with God Jesus?

2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, PERFECTING HOLINESS IN THE FEAR OF GOD.

Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may SERVE GOD ACCEPTABLY WITH REVERENCE AND GODLY FEAR

Fellowship with God
means YOU Arabs and Muslims
can be called sons of God.
You can be forgiven of ALL your sins!
You can be
adopted by God
THROUGH your Faith
in His Son Jesus.

Can you call Jesus the Son of God? Is He God in your life? Have you given Him absolute control of your life and future?If not, do is right NOW!

Pray now to the LORD and accept His forgiveness of all your sins through FAITH in His Son – God Jesus Christ!

Pray God right now And be saved!

God is bringing Judgement. Return of the Lord Jesus and His Judgement day should make difference in our behavior. Live your best in purity. Be excited about meeting with the Lord. You should anxiously await with joiful anticipation of the Lord’s return. If your hearts is filled with anticipation, excitement and joy, it indicates that you are walking with the Lord. If you are NOT sure and confident that if you would die today you would go to Heaven, it means you need to get right with God. If you never said- YES- to Jesus, do it today! If you have fallen away from the Lord, come back to Him today.

We will close with prayers: Father, we believe that Jesus is coming again. We believe we need to be ready. And Lord I am praying about any person who is reading my message and if they dont have confidence that they are ready for Your return, help them to come to You today and get right with You now. Amen.

First, recognise brother, that you are sinner. Be sorry for your sin. And ask God to forgive you right now. The way as we do that TROUGH PRAYER. That’s how we communicate with God.I’d like to lead you in prayer. If you want Christ to forgive your sins. If you want to know that when you will die you will go to Heaven then pray this prayer with me right now:

God, I know I am a sinner. And I am sorry for what I have done. And I turn from my sin now and ask You to forgive me. Thank You that Your Son Jesus Christ died on the cross and shed His blood for me. Be my Savior and my Lord. And be my friend. I want to follow You from this day forward. Fill me with Your Spirit. And help me to be Your disciple. Thank You for accepting me. Thank You for forgiving me. Thank You that I am now YOURS. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.

If you sincerely asked God to forgive you then WELCOME to the family of God. Now you are adopted by God. Now you bacame His son and His inheritance. His angels have written your name in the Book of Life. And you have the BRIGHT FUTURE.

God Jesus said:

“I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word

and believes him

who sent mehas eternal life and will not be condemned;

he has crossed over from death to life.John 5:24

Walk with God and live eternally Arab nation! Amen.

Rev. 4:8 “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.”

Brothers, God Jesus is COMING BACK to us to the earth. Be prepared to LIVE with Him and not to die without Him! Repent and make your ways straight. To make your ways straight, then, please the Lord in all you do by BELIEVING in His Son Jesus Christ.

Turn away from a life of sin to a life of righteousness (Rom. 12:21).

This is the way of peace (Luke 1:79).

It is also the way to prosperity, blessings, answered prayer, joy and every good thing (Prov. 13:21; 1 John 3:22; Heb. 13:21).

If you prayed this simple prayer aboveor if you need more information orstill have questions about who Jesus is or if you want to believe in God Jesus then please email me and contact me (contacts are below) because we should be together. God called us as believers in Him or CHURCH.

Bahira

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Contradictions in Islam and Qur’an

Alla

Does evil come from Allah?

Yes

…. If some good befalls them, they say “This is from Allah”. But if evil, they say “This is from thee” (O prophet). Say: “All things are from Allah….

Qur’an 4:78

No

Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from Allah. But whatever evil happens to thee, is from thyself. But what has come to these people. That they fail to understand a single fact

Qur’an 4:79

Does Allah command evil or not?

The Qur’an in the following verses says Allah will not command indecency or evil

Yusuf Ali: When they do aught that is shameful, they say: “We found our fathers doing so”; and “Allah commanded us thus”: Say: “Nay, Allah never commands what is shameful: do ye say of Allah what ye know not?”

Qur’an 7:28

Yusuf Ali: Allah commands justice, the doing of good, and liberality to kith and kin, and He forbids all shameful deeds, and injustice and rebellion: He instructs you, that ye may receive admonition.

Qur’an 16:90

Shakir: This is because your Lord would not destroy towns unjustly while their people were negligent.

Qur’an 6:131

But contradicts himself when he says he commands abomination

Pickthal: And when We would destroy a township We send commandment to its folk who live at ease, and afterward they commit abomination therein, and so the Word (of doom) hath effect for it, and we annihilate it with complete annihilation.

Qur’an 17:16

Magic

Moses instructed by Allah to do magic

They said: “O Moses! whether wilt thou that thou throw (first) or that we be the first to throw?”

Qur’an 20:65

Magic is evil

And from the evil of malignant witchcraft

Qur’an 113:4

Are animals evil?

Yes

lready have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. These are as the cattle – nay, but they are worse! These are the neglectful.

Qur’an 7:179

Yes

So when they took pride in that which they had been forbidden, We said unto them: Be ye apes despised and loathed!

Qur’an 7:166

No

Seest thou not that to Allah bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth,- the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as Allah shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for Allah carries out all that He wills.

Qur’an 22:18

Heaven and Hell

Is there heaven and hell only?

Yes

Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode.

Qur’an 47:12

No, purgatory too

Between them is a veil. And on the Heights are men who know them all by their marks. And they call unto the dwellers of the Garden: Peace be unto you! They enter it not although they hope (to enter).

Qur’an 7:46

Is intercession possible?

No

Then guard yourselves against a-Day when one soul shall not avail another, nor shall compensation be accepted from her nor shall intercession profit her nor shall anyone be helped (from outside).

Qur’an 2:123

No

O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and that I made you excel the nations. And be on your guard against a day when one soul shall not avail another in the least, neither shall intercession on its behalf be accepted, nor shall any compensation be taken from it, nor shall they be helped.

Qur’an 2:47

Yes

On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him.

Qur’an 20:109

Yes

Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority), regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition

Qur’an 10:3

Width of garden; 1 heaven or plural heavens?

More than one heaven (plural, samawaat)

a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and the earth, prepared for the righteous

Qur’an 3:133

Only one heaven (singular, sama)

a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of the heaven and the earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah

Qur’an 57:21

Who will men be with in paradise?

With their wives from Earth

Enter ye the Garden, ye and your wives, in (beauty and) rejoicing.

Qur’an 43:70

With heavenly virgins

They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.

Qur’an 52:20

Do all Muslims go to hell for some time?

Yes

Not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished.Afterwards he may save some of the pious, God-fearing Muslims out of the burning fire

Qur’an 19:71

No

Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode

Qur’an 47:12

No

And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass.
And if ye die, or are slain, Lo! it is unto Allah that ye are brought together.

Qur’an 47:12

Will kafirs go to hell forever?

Not necessarily

One day will He gather them all together, (and say): “O ye assembly of Jinns! Much (toll) did ye take of men.” Their friends amongst men will say: “Our Lord! we made profit from each other: but (alas!) we reached our term – which thou didst appoint for us.” He will say: “The Fire be your dwelling-place: you will dwell therein for ever, except as Allah willeth.” for thy Lord is full of wisdom and knowledge.

Qur’an 6:128

Not necessarily

Those who are wretched shall be in the Fire: There will be for them therein (nothing but) the heaving of sighs and sobs: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: for thy Lord is the (sure) accomplisher of what He planneth. And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein so long for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break

Qur’an 11:106

Not eternal. (Huqb is seventy or eighty years, and every day of it is like one thousand years according to your reckoning in this life—ibn Kathir.)

They will dwell therein for ages.

Qur’an 78:23

Yes

And those who followed shall say: Had there been for us a return, then we would renounce them as they have renounced us. Thus will Allah show them their deeds to be intense regret to them, and they shall not come forth from the fire

Qur’an 2:167

Yes

Such is the requital of the enemies of Allah,- the Fire: therein will be for them the Eternal Home: a (fit) requital, for that they were wont to reject Our Signs

Qur’an 41:28

What will be the food in hell?

Only thorns/ dhari

“No food will there be for them but a bitter Dhari”

Qur’an 88:6

Only pus

Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds

Qur’an 69:36

Also zaqqum, hell fruit

The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils

Qur’an 37:66

Mankind

What is the purpose of mankind?

Only to worship Allah

I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me

Qur’an 51:56

Also to pursue the habits/sunnah of Muhammad

Say: “O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in Allah and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, who believeth in Allah and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided.”

Qur’an 7:158

Are all human races considered equal?

No

Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of ‘Imran above all people,

Qur’an 3:33

No

Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all other (for My Message).

Qur’an 2:47

Yes

O people, we created you from the same male and female, and rendered you distinct peoples and tribes, that you may recognize one another. The best among you in the sight of GOD is the most righteous. GOD is Omniscient, Cognizant.

Qur’an 49:13

Does everyone bear his own burden?

Yes

Say: “Shall I seek for (my) Cherisher other than Allah, when He is the Cherisher of all things (that exist)? Every soul draws the meed of its acts on none but itself: no bearer of burdens can bear of burdens can bear the burden of another. Your goal in the end is towards Allah: He will tell you the truth of the things wherein ye disputed.”

Qur’an 6:164

Yes

And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden, and if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin. You (O Muhammad SAW) can warn only those who fear their Lord unseen, and perform As-Salat (IqamatasSalat). And he who purifies himself (from all kinds of sins), then he purifies only for the benefit of his ownself. And to Allah is the (final) Return (of all).

Qur’an 35:18

Yes

On no soul doth God Place a burden greater than it can bear. It gets every good that it earns, and it suffers every ill that it earns. (Pray:) “Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error; our Lord! Lay not on us a burden Like that which Thou didst lay on those before us; Our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us forgiveness. Have mercy on us. Thou art our Protector; Help us against those who stand against faith.

Qur’an 2:286

No

Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full, and also (something) of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!

Qur’an 16:25

No

When it is said to them, “Believe in what Allah Hath sent down, “they say, “We believe in what was sent down to us:” yet they reject all besides, even if it be Truth confirming what is with them. Say: “Why then have ye slain the prophets of Allah in times gone by, if ye did indeed believe?”

Qur’an 2:91

No

Indeed, Allah has heard the statement of those (Jews) who say: “Truly, Allah is poor and we are rich!” We shall record what they have said and their killing of the Prophets unjustly, and We shall say: “Taste you the torment of the burning (Fire).

Qur’an 3:181

Does Man have free will?

No

No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.

Qur’an 10:100

Yes

With profit) to whoever among you wills to go straight

Qur’an 81:28

When was our fate written?

Before Allah created the heavens and the Earth

No misfortune can happen on earth or in your souls but is recorded in a decree before We bring it into existence:

Qur’an 57:22

On laylatul qadr

Surely We revealed it on a blessed night surely We are ever warning

Qur’an 44:3

Who takes peoples souls?

One angel

Say: “The Angel of Death, put in charge of you, will (duly) take your souls: then shall ye be brought back to your Lord.”

Qur’an 32:11

Many angels

But how (will it be) when the angels take their souls at death, and smite their faces and their backs?

Qur’an 47:27

Allah

It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back (from returning to life), but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.

Qur’an 39:42

Muslims

Who was the first Muslim?

Muhammed

Say: “Shall I take for my protector any other than Allah, the Maker of the heavens and the earth? And He it is that feedeth but is not fed.” Say: “Nay! but I am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah (in Islam), and be not thou of the company of those who join gods with Allah.”

Qur’an 6:14

No partner hath He: this am I commanded, and I am the first of those who bow to His will.

Qur’an 6:163

“And I am commanded to be the first of those who bow to Allah in Islam.”

Qur’an 39:12

Moses

When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: “O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee.” Allah said: “By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me.” When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust. And Moses fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: “Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe.”

Qur’an 7:143

Abraham

And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; “Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam.”

Qur’an 2:132

Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah’s (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.

Qur’an 3:67

Adam

Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of ‘Imran above all people,-

Qur’an 3:33

Egyptians

Lo! we ardently hope that our Lord will forgive us our sins because we are the first of the believers

Qur’an 26:51

Jesus and his disciples

When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: “Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?” Said the disciples: “We are Allah’s helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.

Qur’an 3:52

“And behold! I inspired the disciples to have faith in Me and Mine Messenger: they said, ‘We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims'”.

Qur’an 5:111

Questions and Answers

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Conversation with Sazie Johnson:

Ahmed El Abd:

For Sazie I believe he is just a face for a team behind him, and most probable some of them knows Arabic and as he said before Arab Christians ….. let us state a fact not all the Arabs master the Arabic despite speaking or writing Arabic still we as Muslims have to seek the assistance of the Shaikhs to clear the Quranic texts or we go to Tfseer books in order to reach the right meanings and get the best explanations for the verses without using our poor language skills to interpret the meaning…. as we all know it is not in the human logical when it comes to God’s revelations, like for instance the Israa & me’raje “the prophet trip to Jerusalem then to visit the upper heaven” a story that someone like sazie and all behind him will not by any means understand it, while they understand now the method of communication we are using the mailing system which if the ancestors would have seen it they might have worshiped the mail as their God…..

We are right of no doubt….. our Quran is from God…… Our prophet Mohamed and all other prophets including our Jesus and not their fake one are human messengers from God

We are instructed not to argue with those unbelievers and wait until they speak in another subject… we are also instructed to deal with them in politeness and nicely as long as they don’t interfere in our beliefs………….

From El Bakara I have chosen the right description of peole like Sazie, Bahira and all that are like them

6.As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.
7.Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).
8.Of the people there are some who say: “We believe in Allah and the Last Day;” but they do not (really) believe.
9.Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not!
10.Intheir hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).
11.When it is said to them: “Make not mischief on the earth,” they say: “Why, we only Want to make peace!”
12.Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not.
13.When it is said to them: “Believe as the others believe:” They say: “Shall we believe as the fools believe?” Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know.
14.When they meet those who believe, they say: “We believe;” but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say: “We are really with you: We (were) only jesting.”
15.Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro).
16.These are they who have bartered Guidance for error: But their traffic is profitless, and they have lost true direction,
17.Their similitude is that of a man who kindled a fire; when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in utter darkness. So they could not see.
18.Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path).

Get off this type of argument …. stop responding …. we dont need them nor they will convince us otherwise
let us all block them off

Walid Saifaddin Ashoor:
Hello Sazi,

With all due respect, i do not think you understand at all what is said or what you actually copied and pasted with out understanding the events that took place and the occasion of which a certain verse was conveyed to Prophet Mohammad. This one thing, the other you wrote:

BukhariVolume 6, Book 60, Number 446: Narrated Yahya: I asked Aba Salama, “Which Sura of the Qur’an was revealed first?” He replied, “O you, wrapped-up’ (Al-Muddaththir).” I said, “I have been informed that it was, ‘Read, in the Name of your Lord who created…….. (i.e. Surat Al-Alaq).

This is a meaningless argument which means nothing at all at all, i am surprised that you actually do not understand the simple fact that the friends of Prophet Mohammad gather to discuss, learn, and teach each other, where is your argument? The fact that you and i could differ on whether Genesis or Exodus were the first chapters in the old testament and that you corrected me that Genesis is the first chapter? You must be kidding? Are you for real?

Once you wrote that God in the Quran said: God and Mohammad…..etc…then you claimed and poorly understood that Mohammad is comparable to God. Well in this pretext i could understand if you said: My dog and i went for a walk..in this case are you comparable to a dog?????????The answer is no.

Believe me, no matter how hard you try i have all the answers, and why? not because i am so intelligent, No, because we Muslims have the truth in our hearts: The Quran.

Bring me a solid argument, a challenging one. Do not tell me who said what and related it out of context and ignorance to the Quran. People make mistakes and we all know that. But God challenge man kind to find a mistake in the Quran and He also challenge man kind to produce one verse similar to the verses of the Quran, nobody can and will. The Bible on the other hand, because it was inspired by man kind and rewritten by man ,could be reproduced. And this is evident by the so many versions of the Bible, which are different from one to the other.But let’s move to a more interesting subject: The errors and X rated material in the Bible, such as the following:

Genesis 19:30-36 (King James Version)

30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
What God advocates incest, and what holy book has between it’s pages such pornography. And by the way there is more and we will present it to you in due time. I used we because in classical Arabic i could and it does not mean that there is more than one Walid, but it is a common practice, and also since i am using the western technology, the net, and other tools as well in this nice discussion, therefore, i use : WE.

Walid the humble ignorant servant of Allah, the one and only one.

Sazie Johnson: Hello Ahmed El Abd,

You wrote: “…let us state a fact not all the Arabs master the Arabic (language). Despite speaking or writing Arabic (language) still, we as Muslims, have to seek the assistance of the Shaikhs to clear the Quranic texts or we go to Tfseer books in order to reach the right meanings and get the best explanations for the verses without using our poor language skills to interpret the meaning…”

That is an intellectual statement — an honest one too. Interestingly, not too often do Christians come across a Muslim who admits that there are problems with reading and understanding the Quran.

The Quran was original revealed in the Quraysh language, which no longer exists. In fact there are scholarly debates as to whether there was such a language. However, the Quran was translated from this questionable language to a classical Arabic language. Today only about 12 or 15% of all Arabs can actually read and understand classical Arabic language. It is like us, English speaking people, trying to read and understand classical English such as the language in which William Shakespeare wrote his plays. So too do modern day Arab speaking people have problems reading and understanding the Quran which was translated from the Quraysh language to the now classical Arabic language.

Bukhari: V4B56N709 “Uthman called Zaid, Abdallah, Said, and Abd-Rahman. They wrote the manuscripts of the Quran in the form of a book in several copies. Uthman said to the three Quraishi persons, ‘If you differ with Zaid bin Thabit on any point of the Quran, then write it in the language of the Quraysh, as the Quran was revealed in their language.’ So they acted accordingly.”

You and I must understand this: We outside of Islam expect Muslims to honor and to uphold the three deceptive and misleading demands set forth by Islam: (1) Muslims are to lie in battle: promoting/defending Islam, (2) Muslims are to in peace treaty, and (3) Muslims are to relationship between husbands and wives.

For example: Muslims present the men who memorized the Quran from Muhammad as men who are incapable of forgetfulness — unable to forget. These men were supposed to have computer chips implanted in their brains so that they can never forget verses of the Quran.

Bukhari:V6B61N559 “The Prophet said, ‘Why does anyone of the people say, “I have forgotten such-and-such Verses (of the Qur’an)?’”

These are the kind of things we come across everyday from Muslims. They tell us one story about an event; Islamic history tells us another story about the same event.

I will give you a most recent example: Quran 8:1 reads, “They ask thee (O Muhammad) of the spoils of war. Say: The spoils of war belong to Allah and the messenger…” In this sense Allah and Muhammad are co-owners or joint-owners of the spoils of war. This is Shirk (attributing partnership to Allah). Allah and Muhammad are partners when it comes to the ownership of the spoils of war.

Now let us read Walid Ashoor’s response to Quran 8:1: He writes: “Once you wrote that God in the Quran said: God and Mohammad…..etc…then you claimed and poorly understood that Mohammad is comparable to God. Well in this pretext i could understand if you said: My dog and i went for a walk..in this case are you comparable to a dog????????? The answer is no.”

Someone writing about my “Dog and I going for a walk” is not the same as my “Dog and I owning a piece of property;” or as in the direct sense of Quran 8:1 “This piece of property belongs to Sazie and his dog.” One statement says, “My dog and I were definitely together at one time.” The other statement says, “My dog and I may not have been together at one time, but my dog and I are co-own something.” One statement indicates a relationship between my do and me; the other statement indicates a connection between my dog and me.

And I do not blame Walid Ashoor. If he must remain true to Islam, he is compared by the Islamic oath for deception to lie to me. Muslims are to lie in battle: promoting/defending Islam.

However, all is not lost. There is hope for Muslims. That is why we are shocked and truly amazed when a Muslim like you say: “…let us state a fact. Not all the Arabs master the Arabic (language). Despite speaking or writing Arabic (language), still, we as Muslims, have to seek the assistance of the Shaikhs to clear the Quranic texts or we go to Tfseer books in order to reach the right meanings and get the best explanations for the verses without using our poor language skills to interpret the meaning…”

Not too many Muslims will say such intellectual and honest statement. The Quran was revealed in the Quraysh language and later translated into the now classical Arabic language which only few Arabs can read and understand. This is a true statement which more Muslims are trained to deny.

You also wrote: “We are right of no doubt….. our Quran is from God…… Our prophet Mohamed and all other prophets including our Jesus and not their fake one are human messengers from God.”

I like the part where you said, “Our Jesus.” You are right. There are truly two different Jesus. The Jesus of the Bible is not the same as the Jesus of the Quran. The reasons are given below:

The Quranic Jesus would support Quran 5:38 and Quran 5: 45 which reads, “As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power.” “We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal…And if any fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.”

The Biblical Jesus objects Quran 5:38 and Quran 5: 45. In the Book of Matthew the Biblical Jesus said, “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek (face), turn to him the other also. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love only those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the evil people loving those who love them?” (Matthew 5:38-45)

Your duty as a Muslim is to tell us that after 600 years the Biblical Jesus has changed His mind. He now support Quran 5: 45 which reads, “Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal…And if any fail to judge by what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.” That is not true. You are right to say, “Our Jesus,” because we truly have two different Jesus.
I like you Mr. Ahmed El Abd. I find no hatred in you, but withdrawal —withdraw from discussions based on common sense and logic. And that is fine. You and I can live together in peace. Thank you for your honesty.
Sazie

Kamal Ibrahim El Gadi: Dear Brothers,
Sazie argues for 3 reasons…
1- He is giving translated texts of Quran and Sunnah….. Translation will never convey the full meaning of Quran .. and each will translate according to his understanding and style ..background and such … and he selects uncompleted quotations or certain vague situations related to other events not mentioned and thus the meaning is not complete …..
2- He is discussing a language which is not his native tongue … and this is stupidity of him of course…. He doesn’t speak or know ….
3- He is not pursuing the truth …. He is just seeking argument.
Why don’t you answer my emails concerning your previous experience inside the churches like the other Priests….
How many times were you victim and how many victims did you abuse inside the churches…
Waiting your answers…
Kamal

Dr. Mohammad Madian:
Sazie, you know you are wrong, and we know you are wrong there is no benefit of this discussion you will never convince a true well educated muslim that QURAAN HAS ONE MISTAKE BECAUSE WE COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE ALMIGHTY`S WORD`S, and you will never convince a true muslim that JESUS is the lord because we know that he is just a human born from marry he is incomparable to the almighty who created this whole universe, you are a liar and ignorant, and you will go to hell for sure if you don`t change your mind and stop this nonesense, you are arguing against the almighty who created you and who is capable of taking your life in less than a second and put you to fire hell for eternity you should be afraid!!!!!!!!!!
Sazie Johnson: Hello Dr. Madian,

How are you? You are a good man. You intentions are honorable especially when you warned me that I will go to hell if I do not change my mind and look upon the Quran with favor. But here is the problem: According to the following hadith, it seems Umar, Muhammad’s close companion, is the one who revealed Quran 66:5.

Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 438: Narrated ‘Umar: The wives of the Prophet out of their jealousy, backed each other against the Prophet, so I said to them, “It may be, if he divorced you all, that Allah will give him, instead of you wives better than you.” So this Verse was revealed. Quran 66.5 reads, “It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange consorts better than you,- who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast,- previously married or virgins.”

How can one read Islamic history and not cast doubt on the Quran?
Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 446: Narrated Yahya: I asked Aba Salama, “Which Sura of the Qur’an was revealed first?” He replied, “O you, wrapped-up’ (Al-Muddaththir).” I said, “I have been informed that it was, ‘Read, in the Name of your Lord who created…….. (i.e. Surat Al-Alaq).
In fact things do not look pretty good when you read and understand Islamic history. Let us read about the prophet’s journey on a wing-horse to the sacred Mosque:

Ishaq:184 “Umm, Abu Talib’s daughter, said: “The Apostle went on no journey except while he was in my house. He slept in my home that night after he prayed the final night prayer. A little before dawn he woke us, saying, ‘O Umm, I went to Jerusalem.’ He got up to go out and I grabbed hold of his robe and laid bare his belly. I pleaded, ‘O Muhammad, don’t tell the people about this for they will know you are lying and will mock you.’ He said, ‘By Allah, I will tell them.’ I told a Negress slave of mine, ‘Follow him and listen.'”

Again how can one read Islamic history and not cast doubt on the Quran?
Hello Kamal,
You are very bold in your comment. You wrote: “You don’t want the truth and you are not ready to accept it.”
How can one read Islamic history and not cast doubt on the Quran?
Sazie

Walid Saifaddin Ashoor:
Hi,

You said you have Arab Christians friends, that’s why I asked you to ask them since they know better on the “I” and “We” subject. And when you, hopefully, have them answer my questions, then I will explain the simple question on “I” and “We”. And answer you as well on the comment you made that there are different versions of the Quran. It’s up to you, but since you referred to your Christian Arab friends, i hope you do ask them, all what you have to do is email them so we can all read their answers.

Walid

Sazie Johnson:
One former Muslim Imam writes: “Muslims, when faced with errors in the Koran or problems with the Hadith, will often resort to logical fallacies or outright lying when debating. Don’t be afraid to call them on that.There is no need for “playing nice” — just consistently be honest and direct.”
What is logical fallacy? This is logical fallacy. You tell me, “ I can explain why Allah reveals himself in plural and singular pronouns, but first you have to gather Arab Christians from Pakistan, Australia, and Egypt and present to them Arabic words 1_01 which are not pronouns before I can explain why Allah reveals himself in plural and singular.”
This is also logical fallacy. You tell me, “If you refuse to have your Arab Christian friends join in our e-mail correspondence, I will not produce the Islamic literatures outside of the Quran where “we” is equivalent to “I”.”
That is sad. That is very sad. You leave no doubt as to the credibility and the truthfulness of the Arab Christians.

Walid Saifaddin Ashoor:
Hello Sazie,

Yes, Mohammad was sent by God, the God of Moses and Jesus, and yes the verses in the Bible refers to Prophet Mohammad, because neither Mohammad nor Moses claimed that they are Gods or son of Gods, so Moses and Mohammad are alike. Lets make that clear. The Quran is clear on this. Christians claim that Jesus is God, yet God was not born of a mother,Jesus was, God has no beginning and no end, yet Jesus has, Christians also claim that Jesus has a father, yet God does not, and they claim that Three different entities, God, Jesus,and the holy spirit, that are different in attributes,characteristics, qualities,abilities, etc..

are one, which is not and can not be. Islam is very simple One God and his Prophets.
Now one might ask: If God wanted to have a son, wouldn’t it be more reasonable to have a son at the beginning of the creation? Why after Moses and before Mohammad? Why not Adam? Isn’t Adam more deserving than Jesus? Adam was created directly by the Word of God,the word here means the order or the command : BE, So Adam is a better candidate.

Back to WE and I , is a comprehensive language and it is a beautiful language, a precise language, and their is no language on earth like it.
I will give you a simple example , sanah and aam, means ” Year” , each has it’s interpretation in a sentence.

Now, please, if you would, ask your Christian Arabs what the difference between the following ,and after i get an answer i will explain the difference between We and I, in the Quran.
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Also, please ask them, how would you describe in Arabic a dark color if it were black and if it were yellow. In English you say: Dark yellow, dark black, correct? Await your answer.

Walid

Sazie Johnson:
Hello Wilad,
You wrote:
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Believe me; I have no idea what those words are. I do not speak or read the Arabic language. But this must I know: In the English language there are many words that are alike: Example “murder”, “kill”, and “slay” are all alike in the sense that they all mean one thing: the taking of a life. Therefore; your argument that Allah reveals himself in plural pronouns (we, our) and singular pronouns (I, my) because there are words in Arabic that do mean the same is invalid.

Even though I do not read and understand the Arabic language, I am very sure that the words 1_05 which you gave meare not pronouns. Pronouns are in a class all by themselves. They are not adjectives which are descriptive words. They are not verbs which are action words. Pronouns are words that represent or take the place of nouns. The word Allah is a noun — a singular noun. The word “I” is a pronoun — a singular pronoun. A singular pronoun “I” represent a singular noun “Allah”. No plural pronoun “we” must represent a singular noun “Allah”, unless Allah has multiplicity (more than one) within himself.

For example: the word “sheep” is both singular and plural. When the sheep says, “I am here,” we know it is one sheep. But when the sheep says, “We are here,” we know it is more than one sheep. Therefore; to say that because certain words (sheep, hair,) is the same whether singular or plural explains why Allah reveals himself in singular and plural pronouns is invalid. “Sheep” and “hair” are nouns which can either be plural or singular. “I” and “we” are not nouns, but pronouns. Pronouns are fixed in their conditions. They are either permanently singular or permanently plural. But nouns are not fixed in their conditions. The noun “sheep” can either be singular or plural. The pronoun “I” will always be singular in any language even Arabic; and the pronoun “we” will always be plural in any language even Arabic.

Yes, it is true. In almost every language certain words can be alike. The words “murder”, “kill”, and “slay” are all alike. But they are not pronouns. They are verbs. And I am sure the Arabic words (mentioned above) are probably verbs, adjectives, or adverbs.But they are not pronoun which can only be singular or plural.

There is no language on earth, or that has ever been on earth in which the singular “I” is used to mean the plural “we”. Arab Christians tell us the Quran is the only book in which Muslims are mentally trained to see plurals “we, our” to mean singular “I, my”.

You must explain why Allah, the “Total Aloneness” god reveals himself in pronouns that are permanently fixed as either singular or plural. The question is not why certain words are alike. The words which are alike in almost every language are not pronouns.

Sazie

Sazie Johnson:
Hello Walid,
You asked good questions. I do like and admire that. Thank you. I will answer them.
Your question: “why do you have THREE gods and yet your god say “I” and not “We”?”

You mentioned three gods. There is a word called “Trinity”. And there is another word called “Tritheism”. I will let the encyclopedia defines both words for you. In Wikipedia we read the following: “Tritheism is the belief that there are three distinct, powerful gods, who form a triad (harmony). Generally three gods are envisaged as having separate powers and separate supreme beings or spheres of influence, but working together. There is no group that claims to believe in or teach tritheism. The term is solely used as an accusation against a group holding an alternate or distorted view of the Christian doctrine of Trinity.”

In other words, even though there is no human being on the face of the earth that adhere (hold) to the belief of “Trithesim” — a teaching that emphasizes three distinct and separate gods who work together as one god, you accusation that I hold unto “Tritheism” is a misunderstanding of the Holy Trinity. The encyclopedia says it better. Let us read it again: “There is no group that claims to believe in or teach Tritheism. The term is solely used as an accusation against a group holding an alternate or distorted view of the Christian doctrine of Trinity.”

The difference between “Triteism” and “Trinity” is simple: Tritheism starts with three different gods who later on work together as one god. No human being on earth holds to the “Tritheism” theology. Trinity starts with One God who reveals Himself to mankind in three Persons. If on the other hand you insist that “Tritheism” is the same as “Trinity”, I leave that to you.

Your other question: “And if We is used for Royals, is God sub-royal? You cannot argue comparitively since we are humans and not Gods.”
Yes, I can argue both competitively and comparatively.

First I argue comparatively: There are four types of ‘We’. Each one of them is inclusive or includes another person. (1) There is an Author’s “we” and (2) the Editorial “we”. Both “we” are similar in that one person speaks for an entire staff, co-workers, or colleagues. Example: An author of a science book may say, “We just cannot find the evident to prove this hypothesis.” In this sense he includes all the scientists of the world to himself. The Editorial “we” is the same as the Author’s “we”. Even though only one person (the editor) is speaking or writing, he says “we” to include all the staffs of his newspaper or magazines. (3) is the Patronizing “we”. The Patronizing “we” works like this: I say to you: “I am hungry. We do not want me to be hungry; do we?” Even though I am the one who is hungry, and I am the one who care that I am hungry, I am patronizing you by bringing you to my side in terms of caring for my hunger. I say “we” to include you and me in my desire not to be hungry. This is called “Patronizing we”. (4) is the Royal “we” which is used by Royalties (Kings and Queens) to invoke their divine rights as God’s appointees or God’s representatives on earth in terms of co-rulers. God rules in the heavens; the king or queen rules on earth. The King or Queen says, “We” to mean “God and I.”

Second, I argue competitively: There is no language known to man — absolutely not one and not even the Arabic language — in which the plural pronoun “we” is used as the singular pronoun “I”. In fact Arab Christians tells us that the Quran is the only book in which Muslims are mentally trained (train their minds) to see singular where plural is clearly visible. These Arab Christians challenge Muslims to produce any Islamic literature outside of the Quran where the plural “we” means the singular “I”.

Yes, I can argue both competitively and comparatively against the “Total Aloneness” of Allah as portrayed in the Quran. In order for you to competitively and comparatively argue for the “Total Aloneness” of Allah as portrayed in the Quran, you must show us a language in which the plural pronoun “we” is used as the singular pronoun “I”; and you must answer the challenge issued by Arab Christians: produce any Islamic literature outside of the Quran where the plural “we” means the singular “I”.

There is one key drawback as to whether Muhammad and Moses are alike. Muhammad and Moses did not speak in the name of the same God. Like the title President, Prime Minister, or King, the Hebrew word ‘Elohim’ is a title given not only to pagan deities, spirits, angels, and demons, but also to the God of Israel. In other words, in the Bible the word “Elohim” is a title given to idols, spirits, angels, and demons. This title (Elohim) is also given to both Moses and his God — the God of Israel. In fact God, Himself, called Moses “Elohim”. God speak in Exodus 4:16, “He (Aaron) will speak to the people for you, and it will be as if he were your mouth and as if you were Elohim to him.”

But in Exodus 3:14 God distinguished Himself from the general title “Elohim” which is given to men, pagan gods, spirits, angels, and demons. God spoke in Hebrew and told Moses, “My Name is YHWH” which in English reads, “I AM BECAUSE I AM”. All the Prophets of God spoke in the name of YHWH which means “I AM BECAUSE I AM”. Muhammad did not speak in the name of YHWH which means “I AM BECAUSE I AM”, but spoke in the name of a different title, Allah: “The god.”

Conclusion: Tritheism is not the same as trinity. No human being on the face of the earth that adheres (holds) to the belief of “Trithesim” — a teaching that emphasizes three distinct and separate gods who work together as one god. Trinity insist there is one God who reveals Himself to mankind in three Persons. But if you insist that “Tritheism” is the same as “Trinity”, I leave that to you. There are four types of “we”: (1) Author’s “we”, (2) Editorial “we”, (3) Patronizing “we”, and (4) Royal “we”. Each one of these “we” is inclusive of another person. The King or Queen says, “We” to mean “God and I.”Muhammad is not like Moses, because Muhammad did not speak in the name of YHWH which means “I AM BECAUSE I AM”, but spoke in the name of a different title, Allah: “The god.” Every one of God’s prophets said to the people: “I come to you in the name of YHWH (I AM BECAUSE I AM).” Each prophet of God spoke in the personal and intimate name of God: YHWH which means “I AM BECAUSE I AM”. Muhammad come and spoke in the name of Allah which means “the god” — a title used for pagan deities in pre-Islamic Arabia — a title that does not go further back than the 2nd century A.D.

God will not send a prophet to mankind who does not speak in His personal and intimate Name: YHWH (I AM BECAUSE I AM). Moses and Moses are sent to mankind by two different gods. Moses told us in Genesis 18 that His God came down to earth, visited Abraham, spoke with Abraham, and ate with Abraham. Muhammad said his god can never do that: Quran 42:51 reads, “It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal, with Allah’s permission, what Allah wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise.”

The God of Moses did not send Muhammad. Let us make that perfectly clear.
Sazie Johnson

Conversation with my brother Basharat:
From Basharat to bahira
Sent Aug 1
Sister salam : What is your opinion about the burning of Holy Quran by Christian Churches on the anniversary of 9/11 ……?

From bahira to Basharat
Sent Sep 6
Brother,

Quran is just a book. Whether it is burned or preserved in museum it remains to be a book called Quran.
The same way if the whole Bible is burned but there are only a few words left on one page. These a few words of God is EVERYTHING to me. Not a book matters, but God who is seen and visible in HIs WORDS!

But we know God and saw Him looking into eyes of God Jesus! He is the exact representance of Father.

Bahira

Sister salam :
It means you support violations of feelings of a religious group or groups in the name of spirituality and violation of all norms of morality.
Is the burning of Holy books of any religion is just ? and whether it does not tantamount “terrorism”.
Sister, it appears that you are supporter of all kind of immorality as you share the view that whatever sins are done by a priest or nuns they will be pardoned if they admit that Isa is Allah. What a illogical logic ? and I think Allah must remain you on that false faith in this world as well as in the Hereafter.(Ameen)
Yours brother,
Basharat

Brother i am glad to hear how you speak.
I have missed your thoughts.
You are one of the most intelligent people I have met.
If every sinner will repent of his sins, God will forgive him and forget his sins.
Why? Because He is merciful! There is no such mercy in Islam!!!!!
Why? Because God never was in Islam! We all could be forgiven by God through our faith in His Son Jesus. Who does not believe in this Son of God is condemned by his own sins and could not be forgiven by ‘cow’ cuz cow is NOT God.

Bahira

Conversation with my brother Kamal Ibrahim El Gadi:

Kamal said:

Sazie and Bahira…
The Global Press and TV channels neber to be free of some news concerning churches sexual abuse SCANDALS… courts are busy trying the trial of VICTIMS eveywhere….
I need you both to tell us your previous experience or rather history with such big issue …
I am sure your history is rich in inofrmation concerning such topic because apparently you spent and still spending lots of time inside churchrs with smart and handsome preists ….
If you just publish an autobiography about such topic containing your previous history inside the churches with their notorious sexual abuse….. I guess you will be millionaires and famous….
And I need you to listen to this lecture ..
Waiting for your answers…..
Kamal

Answers:

[18:52:53] bahira: Dave, please answer to message of Kamal

[18:52:56] bahira: ok?

[18:53:00] bahira: i will forward it

[18:53:06] bahira: please help me!!!!

[18:53:30] bahira: please answer and send copies to all people whom you will see below

[18:53:51] bahira: cuz u are so intelligent..so clever..i need your help brother

[18:54:10] bahira: ok

[18:54:12] bahira: ???

[18:54:25] bahira: ok

[18:54:38] bahira: please send them answer

[18:54:40] bahira: ok?

[18:55:24] David: Ok, I will look it over and see if I can answer.

[18:55:40] bahira: u can u are the most clever man

[18:56:02] bahira: give me email..i cannt find

[18:56:34] David: You already lost my email?

[18:56:47] bahira: davidscot8@hotmail.com

[18:56:52] David: Yes

[18:58:00] bahira: read it

[18:58:03] bahira: check

[18:58:04] bahira: it

[18:58:30] David: Ok

[18:58:36] bahira: can u answer it?

[19:01:02] David: I can answer it, but probably not the way Kamal wants it answered

[19:02:02] David: Well, give me your answer. I know you can answer it.

[19:04:21] bahira: my answer? We all are sinners…if we do not live with God, we live in sins. If we do not live with God even in church then we are equal to unbelievers. But our conscience is like voice of God is telling us that we are wrong. it is better to come to church like to hospital and to get help of God there than to avoid church and God! God can restore us but we should TURN from sins to God to get His recovery.

[19:05:30] David: The key point to your answer is sin. The reason why that has happened is sin.

[19:05:39] David: Hold on…

[19:05:44] bahira: yes

[19:13:30] bahira: new message check it

[19:13:48] David: You need to make it clear to Kamal that we as Christians don’t look to any man as an example. There is only one perfect person and that is God. We are all sinners, and we all fall short of God’s Glory. The Catholic church is a man-made institution with a lot of man made rules. Priests are sinners just like we all are. When you create an institution like the Catholic Church that doesn’t allow sex, there is going to be perversion. I personally think that is why you see all of these sex scandals in the Catholic church. It is not normal to refrain from sex. These men are told to repress something that God created for our pleasure within marriage.

[19:14:47] bahira: Brother, will u answer him? or i will just copy our conversation and give him?

[19:15:13] bahira: what do u think?

[19:15:21] David: I think that is the basic message, but I think you could word it better.

[19:15:23] bahira: i want to introduce u to him

[19:15:35] bahira: no u do it better than me

[19:15:50] bahira: please Dave, write to him now

[19:15:59] bahira: please, please, please

[19:16:20] bahira: Dave we all are priests..u also.. please answer to them all

[19:16:52] bahira: ok?

[19:19:20] David: All I would say is basically what I wrote above

[19:19:37] bahira: ok i will copy it and give him

[19:19:44] bahira: thank u

Re: Ask your question!

Contact me and I will answer to your questions about Islam and the Bible.
Bahira

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Sister, salvation is very simple: through FAITH in God Jesus, REPENTANCE and CONFESSION of your sins.
You should believe in God Jesus and LIVE according to His words, WALKING in FAITH what means implementing all His words and commandments. This life means REPENTANCE of your sins when you TURN from sins to GOD, when you ABANDON your sins and make a STEP of FAITH toward God. God will purify you like gold and after repentance He promised to forget and forgive your sins. You will be FREE of your sins and the Holy Spirit will give you a TESTIMONY in your heart that you are forgiven and adopted by God to be His Inheritance. If you will BE SURE in this FORGIVENESS you are FORGIVEN by God and this assurance will be granted to you by God Himself. God does not want to make this salvation complicated. It is VERY simple. But it is NOT a miracle. We should NOT wait when we will become holy by any miracle but we SHOULD become HOLY by TURNING from sins to God Jesus. This is the TRUE repentance evident in your changed and holy life. If you will not abandon your sin, you are sinner. NOT a CHRISTIAN! If you didn’t turn from your sins, you are sinner. You are not Christian but a criminal against God and people. That’s why to BE SAVED: BELIEVE, REPENT, CONFESS your sins, ABANDON them and LIVE a holy life. The way of sin is not for you! But the Kingdom of your Father is FOR YOU!

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AIDS Drives Dalit Man to Jesus

July 2, 2008

This church in India is filled with Dalits who, like Sursen, now know the Savior’s love and can worship Him.

AIDS paved the way for Sursen to come to Christ.
Sursen, who lives in Karnataka, India, grew up in a family that adhered closely to the spiritual traditions of their village. When Sursen became an adult, he and his wife and their three children worshipped and offered animal sacrifices to appease the deities he learned to worship in his youth.
As a Dalit—one of India’s scorned and impoverished “Untouchables”—Sursen lived a very simple life with his family, working as a mason. When Sursen’s wife and children heard the Gospel from Jethu, a Gospel for Asia missionary, they chose to put their trust in Jesus. They began attending prayer meetings regularly at the church where Jethu was pastor.
Filled with despair at the news of his impending death, Sursen contemplated suicide . . . As they grew in their faith, Sursen became angry. He wanted nothing to do with Jesus, and even joined others in the village in voicing opposition to the pastor and his family. A few months later, Sursen got sick and was bedridden for several days. He visited the doctor, who gave him the shocking news—he was HIV positive.
Sursen’s doctor told him he would only live for three months. Filled with despair at the news of his impending death, Sursen contemplated suicide. But then he thought of the many sins he had committed in his life and knew he needed atonement. Rather than offering another sacrifice to a traditional god, he asked his family members to bring Jethu to pray for him.
Pastor Jethu visited Sursen and shared of Christ’s redemptive love and healing power. God’s Word touched Sursen’s heart and he began confessing his sins to the Lord. Discovering that Jesus was the only One who could offer him true redemption, Sursen trusted Him as Savior. He found himself filled with peace and joy like none he’d known before and dedicated what remained of his life to knowing the Lord more fully. As Sursen spent time reading the Bible and praying, he began to have a deep trust in the Lord to seek Him for healing.
The Lord honored Sursen’s faith and healed him of AIDS.
Sursen and his family rejoiced in this miraculous answer to prayer and became witnesses of Christ’s redemptive healing among many in their village.
Pastor Jethu asks for prayer that the Lord will use Sursen’s story to witness to many more in this village—and that Sursen and his family continue to grow in their faith.

Freed to Testify

August 6, 2008

Like this missionary, Ravi is passionate about reaching the Dalits in his state of Uttar Pradesh.

God often builds His kingdom through a ripple effect, and many Dalit communities exemplify this. As Gospel for Asia missionaries work among the Dalits, the Lord continues to move in powerful ways to show His love to these “Untouchables.” In response, the people are able to be witnesses of God’s grace in their own villages.
GFA missionary Ravi Verma serves in Uttar Pradesh, India. In the area where in he lives, there is a cluster of villages with a large Dalit population. These Dalits live in tiny huts without adequate food, clothing or shelter, and they work for whichever landowner will hire them that day. Like millions of other Dalits, they are caught in an oppressive caste system that has treated them as less than human for thousands of years.
Ravi’s heart ached for these people, and he desired to reach them with the Good News of Jesus. He began visiting each of the villages and going door to door to share the Gospel. The stories of the lives he has touched show the fruit of his work.
One Dalit man, Deepak, was greatly discouraged and depressed. Evil spirits were attacking his wife, Jaya. The couple also did not have any children, even though they had been married for three years.
Ravi’s heart ached for these people, and he desired to reach them with the Good News of Jesus. Deepak did not know where to turn. In desperation, he took his wife on pilgrimages and to witch doctors, but none of these things could heal her.
One day, Ravi came by the couple’s house and prayed for Jaya. From then on, Deepak and Jaya started attending church and put their trust in Jesus. God fully delivered Jaya from her afflictions and eventually blessed the couple with two children.
Upon seeing this miracle, many people in the village received Christ and began attending church. Deepak still actively shares his faith, and every week he brings new people with him to church.
Back from the Brink of Death
A Dalit woman named Amulya was delivered from the brink of death and now testifies of God’s faithfulness.
A poisonous snake had bitten Amulya. Her condition quickly worsened, and she fell into a coma. Her family took her to the hospital, and doctors put her in the intensive care unit. However, after three days her condition did not improve.
Someone in the village told the family that they should ask Ravi to come pray for Amulya. They immediately rushed to find Ravi and bring him back to the hospital. Ravi came and prayed for Amulya, and two days later, she was back to normal and able to return home.
Word of her healing quickly spread throughout Amulya’s village. Amulya and many others from the village chose to follow Christ after witnessing this miracle. Amulya cannot stay silent about what God has done in her life. She has brought 15 new women to the church and travels to different villages to share about Christ.
From Idol Worshipping to Following Jesus
Another woman who has found new life in Jesus is Malika, who used to worship idols. One of her sons, Manavendra, developed tuberculosis. This news devastated the family, and they watched helplessly as Manavendra’s health deteriorated. Despite the fact that he was seeing a doctor, he grew thinner and weaker.
It was during this time that Ravi came to Manavendra’s house to share the Gospel and pray for the family. Because of that visit, Manavendra began to attend Ravi’s church, and gradually the Lord completely restored his health.

GFA missionaries frequently have opportunities to pray for the sick. Often God mercifully brings healing, and many people choose to follow Jesus after seeing that He is far more powerful than their idols.

The entire family chose to follow Jesus, and as a tangible act of her new dependence on Christ, Malika removed all the idols from her house. She is now taking every opportunity she can to share about how God healed her son.
Ravi asks for prayer as he goes from village to village to share with the Dalits the hope that only Jesus can give. Pray also that the new believers will stand firm in their faith, even in the midst of difficulties.

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Clothed by Christ

Heavenly Father, You said to us “…above all, clothe yourselves with love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.” (Colossians 3:14) As we dress each morning, remind us to put on love so that we honor you in all we do. In Jesus Christ I pray, Amen.

Your Love is enough for me!

Dear Lord, I ask you this morning to fill my heart with your love….be that love enough to fill all aspects in my life, please remove from me anything that is taking the place where your love should be….give me that ceratnty and conviction that your love is enough for me.

I ask you this morning to give that same sense to all of those who are desesperatelly looking for a mate, in most cases, looking to fill gaps in their lifes that ONLY you can fill.

Praise to your name for all generations, forever, amen.
Francisco

Please send me peace
Dear God,Please send me the peace I have been searching and hoping for,for many years now.You have blessed me with so much,I don’t know why I have so much fear,anger and restlessness in my heart and body .Dear God,please keep me cancer free a d healthy,so I know I will live to take care of and guide my son.Please send me some one to hold my hand and guide me when I feel so lost.
As we head in to 2011,Please Dear God,send me the guidance and peace of heart you know I need so very much to make the right decisions for my son and I.
I love you and I always will. Xxx

My only King Jesus my Lord
Dear Jesus,

There is no man, no child, no father, no brother, no husband, no friends, no money, nobody…that will ever have first place in my heart then you.

Because, you are TRUE, HONEST, BEAUTIFUL AND DON’T PLAY GAME ! For that I’ll be eternally grateful !

With you I don’t look for love in different places, I just look in my heart and there you are, I look at the sky and there you are, I look a baby smile and there you are.

Please my only LOVE do not put men in my path that would make me wait and make me think for one seconds that I’m not a Queen of your Kingdom or a highly favored woman and a child of the most High God.

With all my heart…open the floodgates of heaven so that only the man that you have for me, can see right away the wonderful and amazing woman that I am in you….let the others past their way and don’t even send one email or others means of communication… IN THE NAME OF JESUS !

With all that I am and will be…eternally yours !

LOVE YOU JESUS, MY KING, LORD AND SAVIOR !

For more and more deliverance
That any darkness that I have allowed to take root in my mind and character thoughts, emotions, flesh to be uprooted and be gone forever and For the King of Kings to take up full residnece in my mortal body a temple of His Holy Spirit in Jesus Name thankyou and then that my life would be an offering to Him and poured out for the church and the lost…

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